in this electoral college map in some of those big states like ohio, wisconsin, nevada especially and that his path to victory has been -- always been -- he's had multiple paths, whereas romney campaign niche has really decided early on that they were going to try to fight on the same path rather than trying to expand it, so the fact that pennsylvania, michigan, minnesota, states that they will talked about putting in play, they never spent a dime there, means that it all comes down to those fire wall states. >> i hear you telling me, then we'll get charlie's perspective, i hear you telling me, even though if i look at a list of polls, it may show romney plus 2, romney plus 5, romney plus 1. there are a lot of obama leaning polls as well, but even though i look at those polls, you're telling me that it sounds like obama has the edge and he's actually going to win the election? >> if you look structurally, he has an advantage right now. now, if those states happen to flip, and they have gotten closer, and there's a debate of course and charlie, i know, will have a lot to say about this, about what p